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This Morning was a milestone for me....My 88p72 was loaded on to a Roll-back Wrecker for a trip to the Paint and Body shop....I have sanded every inch of this car...It has No chrome , No paint,and no lights or Bumpers....Hince the need for the Roll-back...I am having what was a Ky.Highway Patrol Un-marked grey car painted Gloss-Black....The car will have Dual Spotlights like a CHP or Michigan State Police unit....The plugged antennae wholes will be re-opened to place Motorola Units in them. Last week I flew up to Charlottesville Va. to Buy a working Police Radar Unit for the car....This will complete the Cosmetic for show only look I'm seeking....The Motor Project will carry things to yet another level....I would sure like to see more Box Body fans become part of this Website....There are more than enough 92-01 fans at the www.crownvic.net ....Lets get the Boxers Pumped Up and excited here if we can.....The more shared knowledge the better for everyone.......Allen
 

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it sounds like you'll have a real head turner when its done. its nice to see someone restore an old police cruiser for show. i dont see to many of them at car shows. theres always plenty of fire trucks but hardly any old cruises. good luck with it. keep us up to date and post some pictures when you can.
 

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82f100, Thanks for the reply!!!....You would really be surprised just how much the Cop car collecting is catching on....Give another sight a try if you are Interested? www.copcar.com They have some real fanatics over there. They are not aligned with any particular make, however the webmaster is a real Old Model Mopar fan. My car will of course retain it's Un-marked unit style that it was in fact in Service with. The decals and lights are just to much of a hassle for me to want to get involved with. I did take my Radar Unit to the man that did my upholstry work this morning...The Reciever unit was done in a medium grey Vinyl or a cheap leather?...I turned it over to him to re-do the material to match my shadow(dark) Blue interior....Just another touch to keep things in sematry......Thank for your reply.....Allen
 

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Top of the day to you JW!!!...Diaz Body Shop is supposed to take before ,during and after Shots of the car....We shall see....Don't worry ,You guys will get to see the Cosmetic end before too long....Don't be upset with me if i don't raise the hood for ya!!!...That part is still in the works.....I may have to slow down on the New Motor a bit....Right now getting the car back on the Road is the Important thing to me.I will have a small battle with the DMV due to the fact that the car has been out of Inspection for a year as of this month..as well as the Tags..I did have to send the state a letter as to why to avoid a $250 fine!!!!...I will start my vacation on Tuesday morning after I get off work.....I will have ample time to over-see the work being done. I have a lot of faith in Diaz....He worked at the biggest Jaguar dealership between NY and Atlanta for over 15 years....He got tired of working for the Man as they say....His talent was wasting making them rich......Allen
 
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That's what I like about the states, you can do just about anything. I own 2 ex-highway patrol cars, would love to make them look like the real thing. Just one problem stands in my way, the cops themselves. if you so much as imitate a cop car, your busted. that includes ariels, colouring, lights whatever. I think they called it conspiracy, if you get caught doing a major crime with an imitation cop car it's an automatic 5 years jail before you even go before the judge.
 

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we are lucky to be able to do that here. i like to see the old police cars restored. the crown vics look sharp when done to look like a cop car. its unfortunate that some people dress there crown vics up to look like cop cars for the purpose of impersonating a cop. they give the hobbyist a bad name. i dont see to many crown vics where i live that look like cop cars(except the ones police drive). my crown vic is all stock. i dont want to draw attention to my self or my family. i get plenty of that when i'm out with the hudson club showing of the antiques cars.
 

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Mark, Sadly to say the car is not even close to being finished!! This not being a high yield Insurance deal , does not get the priority that others do.....I'll keep you posted........I think you guys may have taken my Goal with this car out of context....The Car will have two spot lights(Not Colored in any way)....The Antennae's on the rear quarter panel are a very Low-Key style....The Radar Unit I have remains tucked away in a briefcase in the trunk except for display only purposes!!!.....I have No desire to Impersonate or Hassle the general public..........Allen
 

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i understood from your original post what you were doin. i never once got the impresion that you were trying to impersonate or hassle the public. i'm sorry if you took my last post that way. i think when your car is done you'll have a real head turner on the sreets and in the shows. how come if a guy restores an old police car people think he's trying to be a cop, and no one thinks a guy who restores an old fire truck is a fireman?
 

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Mark, Thanks for the understanding....I have been very active on another board.....and sadly to say we have a lot of people there that like to cause grief for the Police package fans......I just wanted to make myself perfectly clear before anyone reading this...not you directly !! got the wrong Idea....Like I said ...I have had about all I'm willing to listen to elsewhere ...in regard to my cars.....Thanks for the Inquirey....And Thanks most of all for being a reasonable person.....You have indeed made a friend Sir!!!.....Allen :wink2:
 

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its too bad that the other boards have left you feeling the need to defend yourself. i dont think anyone on this board will find fault with you for what you drive. any way what do you have planned for your engine?
 

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Engine project 351W Upgrade

Mark, The current Motor is in fine shape...I have a Holley 2 BBl Carb setting on top of it ....The OEM 7200VV Carb that the 351 HO used from the factory was a piece of garbage (IMHO)................I have a spare 351 HO from a 91 Crown Vic Police Package....I have torn it down to the bare block...The accessories will all be used as Core Charge exchanges for new parts.....The Motor will be Bored out to just shy of 358 C.I. I have a Cam that was Custom Ground by Holman and Moody just for this project...They will also Gring my Crank and balance it to within 1 gram of tolerance.....I will be using Aluminum GT40 Heads to Increase Power via Flow and Increase the compression ratio to 10 to 1....The Intake is an Edlebrock Performer EGR unit and topped off by a 600 CFM Holley 4 BBL....The parts are already bought. The 4BBl set-up requires a special linkage that I have gotten ...The AOD Tranny was never built for a 4BLL Carb set-up...The aftermarket comes into play time and again. The goal is to have a Factory rated motor at 180 HP , Pushing 300 HP before it's over...and still be able to pass emissions testing!!!....I will be using TRW forged Flat-top Pistons ...and all Roller Internal parts ....this thing is going to scream when it's all done......Allen
 

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looks like you'll be busy for a little while. you sound like you do all of your own work. i have the edlebrock performer and the holly 600 on my 302. you should be happy with that set up.when your done do you have any plans on running your car in the 1/4 mile to see what it will do?
 

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Very Busy...!!!!

I will run the car on occassion...I am mainly doing this so when we have a Big Meet of the www.crownvic.net people that I will be able to destroy all the Hot Shots in thier New P71 Crown Vics(at a Track of course!!)....We Box Body fans catch a lot of grief from these Guys...I own both and like both !!...But I really want to give this very maligned car a New lease on life.....I will never part with it!! So spending time and money on her is of no great concern to me. I will have to hit the door in about 30 minutes to go make my progress check on the Paint and Body work....This is a lot of fun...but with tha goes a lot of time ,money and effort too!!!....Feel free to join us at the other website if you choose..it is a very active bunch....Don't pay any of the Negative types you might encounter any attention.....It's a good website too!!!!....By the way we do have regional meets from time to time....I attended one last sunday in Raleigh N.C. we had a good group show up from both Carolina's and 1 from Va.....The organizer even arranged to have a North Carolina State Trooper show up with a New P71 Interceptor.....It was fun!!!......Allen
 

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i'm not a big fan of the 4.6 i dont know enough about them to say if i like them yet. i like the old motors your 351 should walk all over the 4.6s. theres so much more you can do to mod the older motors. i'm sure in time you'll find a lot of stuff for the 4.6. intill then i'll stick with the older motors as far as performance goes. you will have to post your track times when you run it, and let us know what the 4.6 guys have to say when you beat them. so are you getting impatient yet waiting for your car to get painted? you'll have to tell the body shop to get moving on it so you can have it before show season is over.
 

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Mark....I am getting a tad impatient....but I'm keeping my mouth shut for now!!!.....This Car show season is not in reach as I see it now.....I might have a shot at the Auto Fair in Charlotte in October........As for the 4.6L....Its a nice Motor for 281 C.I. The down side is being computer controlled in every way....The Mods are not cheap either....The Mods do require Computer Chip tweeking to go along with them or they are pretty much useless...Its a harmonic balance just like Intake and Exhaust balance in anything......Allen
 

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our show season has just started for us. my wife and i go to cruise night every other thursday. we dont have a car nice enough to show, but its always fun to go and look. its too bad the body shop is slow about your car. i started taking a night class in auto body this past winter. its realy good i get to bring my truck in to work on. ive learned quite a bit in a short time. i'm hoping to get my truck painted there in the fall. do you see a lot of retired police cars in the car shows where you live? i dont see to many up here.once in a while theres one some where around the old fire trucks.
 

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We have a few

We have a few Cop car fans about....Last sunday we had a meeting of the Carolina's Branch of the www.crownvic.net Bunch...There were 9 of us there in Raleigh...Most of us had to drive two hours or greater to get there.....It was fun....I do have a close friend that has a Biz here in Charlotte that specializes in selling Used Police cars....He sells to smaller lower budget departments,Taxi Companies and Individuals like myself.....Bluesmobile is a member here....and he has a good eye for good vs. the run of the mill. I think the Body shop class you are taking is a great idea....I would have done the same thing had it not been for my work schedule conflicting every step of the way.....I have basically self-educated myself on this by reading a lot ....and of course just getting in there and doing.....The education has saved me a lot of "Dead Presidents" on the current project........Allen
 
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Hey There Allen, hows it going?

Have you heard anymore from the bodyshop? I would imagine that you are getting a little impatient right about now..

I am thinking about getting a new paint job on the 'stang, but will probably wait until next fall. Would hate to have it in the shop all summer..
 
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