[Stealth00]

If Toyota enters V8's will it be good for the sport???

Yes

No

 

[FM]

If Toymotor join I'll be filthy. I sure as hell don't give a rats arse about them. It's Ford or Holden when it comes to V8 Supercar Racing.

 

[Luke Plaizier]

Yeah, but then you probably wouldn't want Holden in the series if it were only a Ford. It's the COMPETITION that makes the series what it is, not any one dominant manufacturer.

This is the year 2001. Toyota were the top selling manufacturer in 2000 - even if they did include Daihatsu and Lexus. Holden were the same by including Saab and Isuzu. If Ford had included Volvo, Range Rover and Mazda things might be different........but I digress.

Which means there are a LOT of Australians that drive a Toyota and would love to see them join the series fair and square, even if their claims of total sales volume were not fair and square. It would mean more spectators, more interest, more advertising, bigger races, more exposure. Albeit it might mean more expensive racing, but I'd bet my left Testicle that AVESCO would have something to say about that.

Come on, how can it be bad? You mean Ford would have a different type of car to race against?

Isn't that the same as Holden teams claiming they couldn't keep up with HRT, and would rather not have to race a competitve Ford, and thus kept a parity advantage for over 2 years?

My vote was for letting Toyota in. And it always will be. And Mitsubishi for that matter. But that's where the buck stops.

HOWEVER, I think Toyota should be forced to release a V8 to the public as a condition of entry. Same for any manufacturer. They need to have a locally assembled production V8 to get in.


Lukeyson

 

[Donut King]

I vote that it will ruin the series because it plays around with our folklore.... sure there was a time when other cars raced, and won at Mt Panorama but the focus has always been on the Holden Vs Ford rivalry, it's only going to mess around with this by allowing Toyota into the Heart and soul of Australian racing that is Ford Vs Holden Supercars.

 

[Donut King]

Link to an article...
http://www.sportal.com.au/v8x.asp?i=news&id=13151

 

[MADXF]

I vote that it will ruin the series because it plays around with our folklore.... sure there was a time when other cars raced, and won at Mt Panorama but the focus has always been on the Holden Vs Ford rivalry, it's only going to mess around with this by allowing Toyota into the Heart and soul of Australian racing that is Ford Vs Holden Supercars.

Thats exactly what I think.
The Ford vs. Holden war has been going on for a very long time, it would wreck an Australian heritage if toyota were to be brought into it.
We all know that both Ford and Holden(GM) are American based companies but we dont think of them that way, we think of them as Australian companies, so to bring in an outsider/international entrant, would be just wrong.
I seriusly hope that it doesn't happen and I hope that everything posible is done to see that it doen't happen.

I'll start a pickett line if I have to.

Paul

 

[FM]

...with Toyota 'keen' to lift the profile of its Avalon V8 car in Australia

Last time I checked Toyota didn't have a V8 in this country. Let alone a RWD V8 sedan. :fmad:

...sources close to Toyota "would have little difficulty buying their way into the franchised sport...

If this happens then I'm calling shenanigans. Dollars can't buy you into this series. It will prove what AVESCO is all about if this were to happen. Dollars buys HRT their success (on & off track, ie. stewards hearings) so it'd really wouldn't be that much of a surprise to see this eventuate.
There's more to racing in this country than a chequebook Mr Cochraine. It's about time you started to realise this. :fmad:

 

[MADXF]

So I take it that you'll be on the pickett line with me Ford Man.

We'll have to think up a good chant though.

 

[Donut King]

I'm just going to vote with my feet and TV screen, I won't watch or go to the races, nor access the results on the net etc...

 

[RPO83]

I can see it now...children all over Australia with posters of Toyota Avalon's on their wall, idolising their wild and aggressive styling...'oh what a' joke!!

The Avalon is for a particular individual, one who has taken the big step by trading in their beloved Toyota Corona or Nissan Cedric. They are the sort of person who thought that motorsport was banned in the 70's, after those environmentally damaging cars nearly killed planet Earth.

So leave these people out of something they don't know exists, because if they find out, get ready for tea and coffee only on top of Mt Panorama.


Ok, maybe a little extreme...and stupid.

 

[Big Block Ford]

I wouldn't be worried by toyota in the races as long as there is one available to the public and they met all the same criteria.Some one posted some rules and it said 2 vavle pushrod V8. What if we get our quad cam ohc V8.It means the windsor will still have to run. I also doubt Toyota would even have such a thing or dream of making one.

 

[puts99]

WE DO NOT NEED TOYOTA IN THE V8SUPERCAR SERIES

It was just be stupid, if the current drivers are annoyed with the back markers now, imagine with the crudbucket toyotas!
And what car would they stick in????? AN AVALON??!!
Stupid choice if you ask me.:thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown

 

[Donut King]

WE DO NOT NEED TOYOTA IN THE V8SUPERCAR SERIES

Hehehe me and Pritesh agree on something, not good

 

[HSE2]

Last time I checked Toyota didn't have a V8 in this country. Let alone a RWD V8 sedan. :fmad:

:fmad:

Yes they do but not in a RWD sedan as such

 

[HSE2]

My vote is no for now, but there will come a time when that will change

 

[puts99]

Hehehe me and Pritesh agree on something, not good

I think its an act of god, or a miracle!

 

[FM]

Yes they do but not in a RWD sedan as such

You know what I mean..

 

[FM]

Why doesn't Toyota start with GTP and then think about V8 Supercars??.. C'mon Mr Marsden.. stop this crap before it goes too far..

 

[THE DOCTOR]

If toyota did put a car in the series and I say "IF". They would most likely opt for the chaser with the alloy V8, something like 400 odd horsepower to move a 2200 pound car.

 

[1086]

It's the COMPETITION that makes the series what it is, not any one dominant manufacturer.....

.........HOWEVER, I think Toyota should be forced to release a V8 to the public as a condition of entry. Same for any manufacturer. They need to have a locally assembled production V8 to get in.

Lukeyson

I agree with Luke & BBF. If Toyota had a RWD sedan with a V8 that was to be sold in this country, I couldn't see a prob with it. But only under that scenario, not racing some mungrelised Avalon.
And as BBF said I can't see Toyota doing this.
Having a variety of makes doesn't harm the racing, it would enhance it I reckon. Just like GTP. (But with cars would be configured to be as even as possible on the track.)
Hell, all they are when it comes down to it are body shells.
Russell.