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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hi,

I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and the
total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.

I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.

My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the Speedo/Odometer
for extended periods?

I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because the
engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it didn't
receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.

True??

Thanks, Chuck
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
c wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and the
> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
>
> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
>
> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the Speedo/Odometer
> for extended periods?
>
> I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because the
> engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it didn't
> receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
>
> True??
>
> Thanks, Chuck
>
>


If it's an automatic it wouldn't shift. Why do you think it's not right?
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Just the general condition of the interior; compared to a friends truck
with similiar mileage. Maybe I'm imagining things...at a dealer I'm at a
disadvantage in that I can't talk eye to eye with the original owner..to get
a feel for the validity of his statements.


"JimV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>c wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and the
>> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
>>
>> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
>>
>> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the
>> Speedo/Odometer for extended periods?
>>
>> I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because
>> the engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it didn't
>> receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
>>
>> True??
>>
>> Thanks, Chuck

>
> If it's an automatic it wouldn't shift. Why do you think it's not right?
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
If something doesn't feel right walk away, your first intuition is probably
right.

There are plenty of other trucks to be had...


"c" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
> Just the general condition of the interior; compared to a friends truck
> with similiar mileage. Maybe I'm imagining things...at a dealer I'm at a
> disadvantage in that I can't talk eye to eye with the original owner..to
> get a feel for the validity of his statements.
>
>
> "JimV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>c wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and the
>>> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
>>>
>>> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the
>>> Speedo/Odometer for extended periods?
>>>
>>> I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because
>>> the engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it
>>> didn't receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
>>>
>>> True??
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chuck

>>
>> If it's an automatic it wouldn't shift. Why do you think it's not right?

>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
True.

"c" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
> Hi,
>
> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and the
> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
>
> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
>
> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the Speedo/Odometer
> for extended periods?
>
> I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because the
> engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it didn't
> receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
>
> True??
>
> Thanks, Chuck
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Some people really thrash their vehicles. If the original owner had small
kids, it would be even worse.

"c" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
> Just the general condition of the interior; compared to a friends truck
> with similiar mileage. Maybe I'm imagining things...at a dealer I'm at a
> disadvantage in that I can't talk eye to eye with the original owner..to
> get a feel for the validity of his statements.
>
>
> "JimV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>c wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and the
>>> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
>>>
>>> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the
>>> Speedo/Odometer for extended periods?
>>>
>>> I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because
>>> the engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it
>>> didn't receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
>>>
>>> True??
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chuck

>>
>> If it's an automatic it wouldn't shift. Why do you think it's not right?

>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
"c" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
> Just the general condition of the interior; compared to a friends truck
> with similiar mileage. Maybe I'm imagining things...at a dealer I'm at a
> disadvantage in that I can't talk eye to eye with the original owner..to
> get a feel for the validity of his statements.
>


I just purchased a used 1997 Mazda B4000 to replace my truck that was
destroyed in Hurricane Katrina. Before buying this truck, I checked out and
drove a lot of Rangers and Mazda B-series used trucks -- I was trying to
stay under $10,000.00 but needed V6 4WD.

I turned down several trucks because something just didn't seem right and
one of the main reasons I turned down trucks was the condition of the
interior. Dealers give their used vehicles to detailers who pressure wash
engine, underneath, and exterior and who then scrub the interior and cover
everything with some sweet-smelling stuff.

First thing I do is run the a/c -- if anyone smoked in the vehicle, it'll
come out of the a/c. Then I check the interior to make certain knobs,
levers, etc. are in place. I figure if the previous owner didn't care
enough to replace the broken knob on an a/c control lever, or if a piece of
trim is broken off, he probably didn't care enough to do his scheduled
maintenance. The trashed interior could be the result of dog(s) or
kid(s) -- but a trashed interior could also indicate the previous owner
didn't give a damn about how he treated his truck.

Walk away from it and keep looking.


>
> "JimV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>c wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and the
>>> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
>>>
>>> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the
>>> Speedo/Odometer for extended periods?
>>>
>>> I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because
>>> the engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it
>>> didn't receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
>>>
>>> True??
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chuck

>>
>> If it's an automatic it wouldn't shift. Why do you think it's not right?

>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
"Joe S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]

> First thing I do is run the a/c -- if anyone smoked in the vehicle, it'll
> come out of the a/c. Then I check the interior to make certain knobs,
> levers, etc. are in place. I figure if the previous owner didn't care
> enough to replace the broken knob on an a/c control lever, or if a piece
> of trim is broken off, he probably didn't care enough to do his scheduled
> maintenance. The trashed interior could be the result of dog(s) or
> kid(s) -- but a trashed interior could also indicate the previous owner
> didn't give a damn about how he treated his truck.


Good tips.

Another trick I picked up years ago from a knowledgeable friend
(although the OP's prospective vehicle was 65k miles, so it's a tougher
judgement-call) was to look at the pedals, and see if the wear on them
squares with the odometer's displayed mileage.

I once looked at a Dodge sedan ( 2 years old, one owner, personal use)
with "22k" miles on it, and the corners of the accelerator and brake pedals
were worn smooth. That's an awful lot of foot-work for just over
(ostensibly) 2 years on the road...

S-M
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
"StreetMedic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "Joe S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>
>> First thing I do is run the a/c -- if anyone smoked in the vehicle, it'll
>> come out of the a/c. Then I check the interior to make certain knobs,
>> levers, etc. are in place. I figure if the previous owner didn't care
>> enough to replace the broken knob on an a/c control lever, or if a piece
>> of trim is broken off, he probably didn't care enough to do his scheduled
>> maintenance. The trashed interior could be the result of dog(s) or
>> kid(s) -- but a trashed interior could also indicate the previous owner
>> didn't give a damn about how he treated his truck.

>
> Good tips.
>
> Another trick I picked up years ago from a knowledgeable friend
> (although the OP's prospective vehicle was 65k miles, so it's a tougher
> judgement-call) was to look at the pedals, and see if the wear on them
> squares with the odometer's displayed mileage.
>
> I once looked at a Dodge sedan ( 2 years old, one owner, personal use)
> with "22k" miles on it, and the corners of the accelerator and brake
> pedals were worn smooth. That's an awful lot of foot-work for just over
> (ostensibly) 2 years on the road...
>
> S-M
>

Something else I have heard of people doing, since you can't roll back
odometers anymore, or undo the speedo cable, is that I have heard of people
changing out the dashes on mechanical displays. It wont work with a digital
display, but on like my ford ranger which is a 2000, I can easily go to a
salvage yard and get an identical instument cluster that has considerable
lower miles on it, and swap mine out.
Pkurtz
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
I wish I had read your post 3 months ago. I love the truck I bought, but one
detail frustrated me. It has become very clear over the last 3 months that
the original owner smoked. I had no idea a dealership could cover over the
smell of smoke so well.
Something to think about next time.

MW
"Joe S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> "c" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
> > Just the general condition of the interior; compared to a friends truck
> > with similiar mileage. Maybe I'm imagining things...at a dealer I'm at

a
> > disadvantage in that I can't talk eye to eye with the original owner..to
> > get a feel for the validity of his statements.
> >

>
> I just purchased a used 1997 Mazda B4000 to replace my truck that was
> destroyed in Hurricane Katrina. Before buying this truck, I checked out

and
> drove a lot of Rangers and Mazda B-series used trucks -- I was trying to
> stay under $10,000.00 but needed V6 4WD.
>
> I turned down several trucks because something just didn't seem right and
> one of the main reasons I turned down trucks was the condition of the
> interior. Dealers give their used vehicles to detailers who pressure wash
> engine, underneath, and exterior and who then scrub the interior and cover
> everything with some sweet-smelling stuff.
>
> First thing I do is run the a/c -- if anyone smoked in the vehicle, it'll
> come out of the a/c. Then I check the interior to make certain knobs,
> levers, etc. are in place. I figure if the previous owner didn't care
> enough to replace the broken knob on an a/c control lever, or if a piece

of
> trim is broken off, he probably didn't care enough to do his scheduled
> maintenance. The trashed interior could be the result of dog(s) or
> kid(s) -- but a trashed interior could also indicate the previous owner
> didn't give a damn about how he treated his truck.
>
> Walk away from it and keep looking.
>
>
> >
> > "JimV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> >>c wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and

the
> >>> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
> >>>
> >>> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the
> >>> Speedo/Odometer for extended periods?
> >>>
> >>> I have been told by the dealer that this would be impossible...because
> >>> the engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it
> >>> didn't receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
> >>>
> >>> True??
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Chuck
> >>
> >> If it's an automatic it wouldn't shift. Why do you think it's not

right?
> >
> >

>
>
>
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
"M White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>I wish I had read your post 3 months ago. I love the truck I bought, but
>one
> detail frustrated me. It has become very clear over the last 3 months that
> the original owner smoked. I had no idea a dealership could cover over the
> smell of smoke so well.
> Something to think about next time.
>
> MW
> "Joe S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "c" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
>> > Just the general condition of the interior; compared to a friends
>> > truck
>> > with similiar mileage. Maybe I'm imagining things...at a dealer I'm at

> a
>> > disadvantage in that I can't talk eye to eye with the original
>> > owner..to
>> > get a feel for the validity of his statements.
>> >

>>
>> I just purchased a used 1997 Mazda B4000 to replace my truck that was
>> destroyed in Hurricane Katrina. Before buying this truck, I checked out

> and
>> drove a lot of Rangers and Mazda B-series used trucks -- I was trying to
>> stay under $10,000.00 but needed V6 4WD.
>>
>> I turned down several trucks because something just didn't seem right and
>> one of the main reasons I turned down trucks was the condition of the
>> interior. Dealers give their used vehicles to detailers who pressure
>> wash
>> engine, underneath, and exterior and who then scrub the interior and
>> cover
>> everything with some sweet-smelling stuff.
>>
>> First thing I do is run the a/c -- if anyone smoked in the vehicle, it'll
>> come out of the a/c. Then I check the interior to make certain knobs,
>> levers, etc. are in place. I figure if the previous owner didn't care
>> enough to replace the broken knob on an a/c control lever, or if a piece

> of
>> trim is broken off, he probably didn't care enough to do his scheduled
>> maintenance. The trashed interior could be the result of dog(s) or
>> kid(s) -- but a trashed interior could also indicate the previous owner
>> didn't give a damn about how he treated his truck.
>>
>> Walk away from it and keep looking.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > "JimV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]
>> >>c wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm deciding whether to buy a F250 1995. I have run a carfax...and

> the
>> >>> total reported mileage checks out...at 65k.
>> >>>
>> >>> I suspect that the truck has higher miles than that.
>> >>>
>> >>> My question: Could the former owner have disconnected the
>> >>> Speedo/Odometer for extended periods?
>> >>>
>> >>> I have been told by the dealer that this would be
>> >>> impossible...because
>> >>> the engine's computer would shut down or go into "limp mode" if it
>> >>> didn't receive an appropriate signal indicating road speed.
>> >>>
>> >>> True??
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks, Chuck
>> >>
>> >> If it's an automatic it wouldn't shift. Why do you think it's not

> right?



It will only come out in the A/C if the previous owner smokes if they ran
the A/C on MAX for long periods of time, and didnt use the fresh air
setting. I am a smoker, and I do smoke in my truck. BUT, when people get in
my truck (non-smokers), they can barely tell I smoke. The reason for this is
because I have installed those window vents that allow you to drop your
window about an inch without getting rain and what not in the window. I keep
my fan on 3 or 4 all the time when its cold outside, and just use the temp
control to do just that. It keeps the smoke blowing out the window and fresh
air coming in. If I do run my A/C, which is very rare, then I leave it on
regular, and still roll the window down so the smoke goes out, right next to
my head. Otherwise, if its warm, I just roll the windows down, and it all
goes outside. I probably wont sell my truck ever, but if I do, I will have
it professionally detailed as opposed to cleaning it myself, and change out
the window seals. I doubt anyone will ever know my truck was smoked in. OH,
and I have the rubber floor mats, so that also helps, the fabric in the
truck is what holds the smell, but if you wash it down it will go away.
 
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