Hi just reading the article on larry perkins, which says that dumbrell will race a vx til mid year, I was wondering if there was any rules regarding when they must move from vx-vy and au-ba. Is there any because I thought a year would be long enough for them to do that.
When must they upgrade?
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Yeah but it is only the engine (Aurora/HMS whatever) they were originally talking about. The Blueprint rules are designed for the BA and full VY car and not a hybrid.FM said:
Holden teams were not allowed to run a VY with a VX engine this year but have been given an extension. So Holden can run a VX, a VY with the Chev engine again or a VY with the Aurora engine.
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I thought for this season they ALL had to be running either a BA or VY no hybrids or anything.
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There were a couple of articles in Auto Action late last year that i noticed. Firstly the one stating that Holden can now indefinitely keep their 18-degree Chevrolet engines and continue to use them in their cars. So now the Holden teams have a choice on what engine they want to use. Yes i know that once they change to the new engine they cant go back to the old one, but it still gives them an advanage for the time being to chose what one puts out more horsepower for them.
But on the same page there was an article saying that some Ford teams (they hinted at SBR) are investigating using a new High Port cylinder heads used in US racing for them to use over here.
However Holden Motorsport boss Ray Borrett seems to have had a whinge about it saying "Project Blueprint has now been signed off and agreed, and there should be no changes to that because we now have mechanical equivalence"
But correct me if im wrong but the way i read it is that Project Blueprint was changed for Holden so they could keep running their old 18-Degree Chevrolet engines that were supposed to be fazed out at the end of the year. But when it comes to Ford wanting to change something they have a big whinge. Why cant Ford get a new Cylinder head as well seeing that the one currently used has been around since the category started in 1993? I know Holden got their new engine to supposably get mechanical equivalence, but the speed at which Murphy went around Bathurst i dont think there was a problem with the old engine at all.
But on the same page there was an article saying that some Ford teams (they hinted at SBR) are investigating using a new High Port cylinder heads used in US racing for them to use over here.
However Holden Motorsport boss Ray Borrett seems to have had a whinge about it saying "Project Blueprint has now been signed off and agreed, and there should be no changes to that because we now have mechanical equivalence"
But correct me if im wrong but the way i read it is that Project Blueprint was changed for Holden so they could keep running their old 18-Degree Chevrolet engines that were supposed to be fazed out at the end of the year. But when it comes to Ford wanting to change something they have a big whinge. Why cant Ford get a new Cylinder head as well seeing that the one currently used has been around since the category started in 1993? I know Holden got their new engine to supposably get mechanical equivalence, but the speed at which Murphy went around Bathurst i dont think there was a problem with the old engine at all.
Same here!!! full spec BA and VY is what I was told in 2004. What the f#%k is project Blueprint for if this sort of s**tty concessions for Holden keep on going?. When the HMS Engine was being introduced there was talk that it is a much better engine with more HP than the Ford, but I still thought that's ok as at least it'll be a even playing field and make good racing, but this extension on the old motor for Holden is just Bulls**t!! When will you ever get things right AVESCO?Night_Lurker said:
*excuse language, had to get it off chest*
Why is there so much talk about running VXs, when there's still plenty of AUs running around (with a revised front spoiler no less)? Sure, I'd like to see all new cars out there too, but why not enjoy having 4 body shapes racing instead of only 2 while we can?
As for the engine situation, they're probably allowing the older design Chev to stay in to save teams having to go and and buy whole new race engines and spares. I don't think they're doing it to give Holden teams "a choice".
As for the engine situation, they're probably allowing the older design Chev to stay in to save teams having to go and and buy whole new race engines and spares. I don't think they're doing it to give Holden teams "a choice".
When i started the thread i was only talking about updating to the later style of body. This was not a ford biased have a go at holden for running VX thread. LOL98Club said:
Anyway I think that a year should be long enough as it makes the series look like it is unfair as some people still have the old cars etc.
As for engine I think they should all have to upgraded for the 2004 season if you cannot iron the bugs out of an engine in a year then they will never be de bugged. LOL (new word)
anyway thanks to all for replyin and clearing up just what the rules are!
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Im sure the Rules will be "bent" for holden again this year. To get the "back in the game". I hope the entire Ford Crew show those Holden SCUM what we are made of!
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