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did all xf's have efi from 1987 ?
the thing is, i see alot of xf's and they don't have the efi badge on them, was efi not a popular choice back in the day for some reason ?
 

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nope, not all of them. i dont think i can remember ever seeing a ghia without efi.

anyways correct me if i'm wrong but didnt the ea first appear in 87?
 

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Only the XF Fairmont Ghia's and up had MPEFI (EECIV) - the rest were carb. The first EA was late 88 still with a 3-spd trans.
 

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The EFI motor in the XF's sucked. I've got an 87 XF and it's the carby model.

The EA's werer the start of the EFI for Ford.
 

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Freak ur right

DONT GET AN EFI XF! (or XE)

im selling my xf for the sole reason that its an efi... sick of it..
hmmm... carby XE Ghia...
 

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There were XF EFI's right thru the years of them building them, optional on S-paks and opional on fairmont ghias. jun 86 is when they changed to unleaded and 87 is when the carby models got Electronic Spark Control.

The EFI XF's are pretty good if you only want to make small changes, eg: extractors, exhaust and a small cam, anything else will stuff up the ECU's control.

Having said that, mine was dual fuel, but now I ripped off the EFI stuff to get rid of the shit airbox, I used an early model XF carby distributor in place of the TFI one.
 

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MaD_WoG said:
Freak ur right

DONT GET AN EFI XF! (or XE)

im selling my xf for the sole reason that its an efi... sick of it..
hmmm... carby XE Ghia...
You're a hard man- they're not that bad - at least my '87 Ghia isn't. If you want to do things to it like cam & extractor - yeah - a carb is a much better option - but the XF EFI is a fairly simple setup. But there aren't many inputs for the computer to control mixture & spark advance so they're a pretty basic EFI setup.

The only real design flaw is the ISCV (which is more just a stupid idea to basically a non-event problem of erratic idle speed which the ISCV is generally more a contributor not a saviour) and the fact the crankcase has to be airtight to prevent crap idling too - so in general - crap idling. It's a great car to tow the boat.
 

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im a hard man?

its an XF EFI on LPG

hoses, and airbox cost 200 bux to change!

ive gone thrgouh about 10 airboxes in the shitbox. u think im ever gonna get another efi car?
 

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Why have you gone through 10 airboxes?
LPG BACKFIRE!!!

My father blew the pipe right off the motor and it landed about 2 meters in front of the car. Good thing no one could see my underwear considering I was standing in front of the car.
 

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Hope you were wearing your brown trousers!

If it's an LPG backfire it's nothing to do with the fact the car is EFI - it's usually a leaking LPG regulator. The intake manifold fills with LPG until the pressure equalises then you give it a crank & *BOOM* - bye bye airbox.
 

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Yeah right a leaking LPG reg did not cause this. You can make any efi car do a LPG backfire by pumping the crap out of the accelerator. I have heard of people doing it on the factory installs too.
 

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Sorry - I was just addressing the start-up explosions. Do you mean by stabbing the accelerator?

I can't see any reason why it would have anything to do with the fact a car is EFI.
 

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even, if i floor it, it used to blow it, once i had sumone under the bonnet, and it went ****en BANG! sounded like a gunshot... ahhh good old carby hehe
 

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There must have been something wrong then, mine has been on gas since ive owned it (60000ks) and it has never missed a beat, starts easier on lpg than it does on petrol.
LPG cars are very sensitive to dodgy spark leads and the wrong spark plugs.
 
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