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I was into Sears this morning having a tire repaired using the road hazard
guarantee.
They are pushing a product called Zoom. It claims to clean, injectors,
valves etc.
It has to be "professionally" administered.
Has any one tried it? I am leery about the claims made by these liquid
fixes.
At $80 is it worth while?
I have 181K on a 92. The idle is not as smooth as it was. I plan to spring
for a new IAC, the old one has been cleaned too many times.

Charlie
 
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. This stuff sounds like the old "mouse
milk" pitch to me. My Ford dealer pushes injector cleaner as well,
have never bought it. It put 185M on a '92 and now have 135M on a '99
and have never had the injectors cleaned. They both ran fine.

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:22:32 -0500, "Charlie Bress"
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>I was into Sears this morning having a tire repaired using the road hazard
>guarantee.
>They are pushing a product called Zoom. It claims to clean, injectors,
>valves etc.
>It has to be "professionally" administered.
>Has any one tried it? I am leery about the claims made by these liquid
>fixes.
>At $80 is it worth while?
>I have 181K on a 92. The idle is not as smooth as it was. I plan to spring
>for a new IAC, the old one has been cleaned too many times.
>
>Charlie
>
 
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Big Shoe wrote:
> If it ain't broke don't fix it. This stuff sounds like the old "mouse
> milk" pitch to me. My Ford dealer pushes injector cleaner as well,
> have never bought it. It put 185M on a '92 and now have 135M on a '99
> and have never had the injectors cleaned. They both ran fine.
>


I'll third that. My '96 is up to 232K and has never had a problem with
dirty injectors.
 
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:22:32 -0500, "Charlie Bress"
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>I was into Sears this morning having a tire repaired using the road hazard
>guarantee.
>They are pushing a product called Zoom. It claims to clean, injectors,
>valves etc.
>It has to be "professionally" administered.
>Has any one tried it? I am leery about the claims made by these liquid
>fixes.
>At $80 is it worth while?
>I have 181K on a 92. The idle is not as smooth as it was. I plan to spring
>for a new IAC, the old one has been cleaned too many times.
>
>Charlie
>


My personal opinion is save your money and use it to buy a bottle of
chevron techroline fuel injector cleaner every 5 to 10K miles. It's a
proven product and only costs about $5 a bottle. I've had it improve
the idle quality (often the first thing to go as injectors start
building up some deposits) on several high mileage vehicles. It may
take several hundred miles to start to see the improvement. It also
cleans valve deposits. You can speed up the cleaning process by using
two bottles at a time. That's twice the standard dose of one bottle
per 15 gallons. Any more then that in a tank is not needed. A friend
of mine got several research reports on the stuff from someone at
Chevron and it clearly showed how well it works and at what
concentrations.
 
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Ashton Crusher wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:22:32 -0500, "Charlie Bress"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>I was into Sears this morning having a tire repaired using the road hazard
>>guarantee.
>>They are pushing a product called Zoom. It claims to clean, injectors,
>>valves etc.
>>It has to be "professionally" administered.
>>Has any one tried it? I am leery about the claims made by these liquid
>>fixes.
>>At $80 is it worth while?
>>I have 181K on a 92. The idle is not as smooth as it was. I plan to spring
>>for a new IAC, the old one has been cleaned too many times.
>>
>>Charlie
>>

>
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> My personal opinion is save your money and use it to buy a bottle of
> chevron techroline fuel injector cleaner every 5 to 10K miles. It's a
> proven product and only costs about $5 a bottle. I've had it improve
> the idle quality (often the first thing to go as injectors start
> building up some deposits) on several high mileage vehicles. It may
> take several hundred miles to start to see the improvement. It also
> cleans valve deposits. You can speed up the cleaning process by using
> two bottles at a time. That's twice the standard dose of one bottle
> per 15 gallons. Any more then that in a tank is not needed. A friend
> of mine got several research reports on the stuff from someone at
> Chevron and it clearly showed how well it works and at what
> concentrations.


I also recommend Chevron Techron. I put one bottle in a 3/4 full tank
every 4-5000 miles. I buy the 4 pack at Costco for about $13. Works
great on gummed up (from winter storage) outboard motors too.
 
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At one time, fuel injector service was viable investment. When EFI first
appeared on mainstream autos in North America, the gasoline at that time was
ill-prepare for some of the special requirements imposed by electronic
injectors. Olefinic waxes would build up on injector pintles and nozzles
during the hot soak phase. These deposits would not be washed away during
operation and chemical cleaners would make a marked difference in
drivability.

Since then, gasoline blends have changed and are much more injector
friendly.... our injector flushing apparatus sits in the corner under a
thick layer of dust. I'm sure we could offer this service to our customers
and make good profit.... however, we would rather earn our customers money
rather than steal it....


"Charlie Bress" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I was into Sears this morning having a tire repaired using the road hazard
>guarantee.
> They are pushing a product called Zoom. It claims to clean, injectors,
> valves etc.
> It has to be "professionally" administered. Has any one tried it? I am
> leery about the claims made by these liquid fixes.
> At $80 is it worth while?
> I have 181K on a 92. The idle is not as smooth as it was. I plan to spring
> for a new IAC, the old one has been cleaned too many times.
>
> Charlie
>
 
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