Dwayne, did you test drive the truck before you bought it? Don't get me wrong, your criticisms sound well-founded and are very clearly expressed, it just sounds like a hasty purchase decision.

 

Hi There.

Nothing like a thorough test drive to check cabin comfort, ambiance and praticality. Kind of think you're a tad harsh, you slay the F150 for the above reasons, but then go on to point out the great handling, ride, power and performance.

Next time do some research

 

My thoughts exactly guys, all of these points could have been resolved if he had of read all the literature about the car and took a proper test drive. I can see why you are not getting a response from Ford here.

 

hehe will have to go with the others, shoulda taken it for a test drive, dont they offer a test drive before you buy over there?
theres also a link to fordforums at the bottom of the page :wnc:

 

Ford make a truck that they think would be ideal for the average person. They can't keep everyone happy. They try hard to make everyone happy but its just not possible to. For some people the truck is everything they need. For others the truck might not be suitable and they go buy a Dodge. Have you thought about modifications. How about improving the vehicle instead of giving it a bash. If its not fast enough, supercharge it, if its not high enough, put a lift kit under it.

 

Read your article on your website. I agree to a point, not just Ford, but GM and Chrysler should all rethink about the design of these new trucks, they just are not practical anymore, they are absolute crap in design. The boxes are way too high to lift items into them from the side, they are too rounded on the front, all the tires are exposed and not covered properly by the fenders, (what the hell were fenders for anyway) and they throw mud, sand and water up along the sides and at other vehicles too. The front pillar posts produce a huge blind spot. What every happend to the slightly rap around windshield? You roll the side window down when it rains and you get soaked to the you know what because they are sloped inward too much. Guess I could go on, but I'll take the older design pickup trucks anyday. I own a 88 F-150 and its got its flaws too but not like these new ones. Guess these manufacturer's go by fancy designs because it sells. All they worry about is the $$$$$.

 

I have a 2004 f-150 Fx4 extended cab and ive owned fords my whole life..this is by far the best truck ever built..i cant compare it to others because ove never drove anything else..mybe i just dont know whats out there..but my new truck is a dream compared to the old model..with the fx4 i get the middle console..its like a cadilac...so comfortable..only thing i agree in your article is the rims..snow and gravel get stuck on the inside and causes the out of balance feeling..you really need to get in there with a pressure washer...other than that...I love it...

 

hope you dont judge your women like that ,,,,you might get married a lot,,,

 

before slamming Ford here you should look at yourself. guess you don't have any vision when it comes to trucks. why would you buy something you haven't done any research on????? sounds like u need a supercrew and bought something Cheaper. Is the real problem your salery????
i am a proud owner of a 2005 supercrew f-150 1/2 ton fx4 4x4. and all the things you posted are not true........this is the best truck God ever made.........

 

Made a decision last winter to buy a Ford again, but I have regretted this since the first week I owned it.

Do yourself a favor and read this before buying one, or letting a friend buy one.


http://www.prairielinks.com/FordReview.html

i take my previous post back...the way it sounds, a new cadilac with an 8 foot box wouldn't satisfy you.......
and as far as slamming ford on the internet, all who read your post will know u are an idiot..........
and you have no knowledge whatsoever on trucks.......
there is a reason ford is the #1 seller for many years, and btw? bet your neighbors and anyone else you know don't like you either....

 

While stuck in the middle of a road that other pickups had no trouble with,....

And none of these other trucks were this generation F-150? I highly doubt that.

Ford sold over 900 thousand of these trucks in 2004 and 2005.

But many of these things you can't find out on a test drive......

Sure you can. Here are several....

1. I am uncomfortable getting in and out

2. Seats are very uncomfortable

3. Dropped window ledge may look nice from outside, but you can't put your arm on the window ledge because the back section is so high.

4. When opened , you still have zero access behind the seats because the door hinges are so far forward.

5. There is also the safety issue of putting the door pillar right beside your head to limit visibility

6. ....and the awkwardness of having to move forward and twist to step out of the cab rather than just sliding out

7. I almost backed into a small car in a parking lot because it was not able to be seen in the mirrors or looking rearward

If you had only sat in the truck and got back out you would have been able to make all these evaluations if they are in fact true. Openning the back doors to look inside would have told you how much room you would have there too. You mean you didn't even do this? Who buys any vehicle without sitting in it or taking it for a test drive? You, I guess.

Rims look nice, but ice and gravel build up inside on the flat surface causing out of balance conditions.

As a former Goodyear tech I can tell you this can happen with any wheel on any vehicle.

You do not have any idea how silly you make yourself look as evidenced by your post and by the answers of denial that I am sure you will respond with if you do return.




If I were you I would remove that review before I made myself look ignorant to the rest of the internet world.

 

And none of these other trucks were this generation F-150? I highly doubt that.

Ford sold over 900 thousand of these trucks in 2004 and 2005.



Sure you can. Here are several....

1. I am uncomfortable getting in and out

2. Seats are very uncomfortable

3. Dropped window ledge may look nice from outside, but you can't put your arm on the window ledge because the back section is so high.

4. When opened , you still have zero access behind the seats because the door hinges are so far forward.

5. There is also the safety issue of putting the door pillar right beside your head to limit visibility

6. ....and the awkwardness of having to move forward and twist to step out of the cab rather than just sliding out

7. I almost backed into a small car in a parking lot because it was not able to be seen in the mirrors or looking rearward

If you had only sat in the truck and got back out you would have been able to make all these evaluations if they are in fact true. Openning the back doors to look inside would have told you how much room you would have there too. You mean you didn't even do this? Who buys any vehicle without sitting in it or taking it for a test drive? You, I guess.



As a former Goodyear tech I can tell you this can happen with any wheel on any vehicle.

You do not have any idea how silly you make yourself look as evidenced by your post and by the answers of denial that I am sure you will respond with if you do return.




If I were you I would remove that review before I made myself look ignorant to the rest of the internet world.

much to late for the obvious.....
Taker-1

 

Ford sent me a questionaire after purchasing my '99 F 150 supercab 4x4. One of the sections was "what changes would you make to the vehicle". I offered up quite a few ideas, and they have implemented most of them in the past several years. The big problem with Ford, and all other product designers is that they don't keep the things that are GOOD. I really don't know what they're doing these days. Are there schools for practical design? I agree that a truck should be MORE capable as time goes on, not just DIFFERENT. If a previous truck performed better, than why are they changing them. Those of you that say this is not true...what was wrong with the 351C? Why do so many people yearn for them? Why do we keep re-building old vehicles? I think manufacturers in general need to pay more attention to practical design and not visual design. :booty:

 

what was wrong with the 351C?

Due to the overly sized valves it did not make power nor was efficient until it was in higher revs which made it not very fuel efficient and a big polluter for the standards at the time. The biggest problem was the emissions. With the huge valves it could not meet the new standards of the time, that is why the 351M came around with modified heads and smaller valves.

I know what you are saying though. It is difficult to please everyone, even upper brass when it comes to cost cutting, etc.

 

I have owned a lot of trucks over the years ,,,different kinds chevy,ford,dodge even an international..and out of all that i've owned ,,i dont think i've ever had one that i didnt have to work on.if its mechanical it is made to wear out or something go wrong.i bought a new chevy once and the engine blew with 28,000 on it ...bought a dodge once the tranny went out at 18,000 ,,,bought a ford and i got a bad miss in it that ive spent a fortune on to get it fixed and still have the miss.so as far as i can understand THEY ALL WILL TEAR UP ON YOU SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE

 

i take my previous post back...the way it sounds, a new cadilac with an 8 foot box wouldn't satisfy you.......and as far as slamming ford on the internet, all who read your post will know u are an idiot.......... and you have no knowledge whatsoever on trucks....... there is a reason ford is the #1 seller for many years, and btw? bet your neighbors and anyone else you know don't like you either....

Wow...the man has what he see's as a genuine complaint, and you flamespray him like that?! Look...don't be such an a_s just because you're on the internet. There's no need for that, and its really uncalled for. First of all, you say the man has no knowledge of trucks. O.Kkkk...what is your basis for that uneducated remark? Sounds to me that although he did make what appears to be an impulse buy, he is pretty truck-savvy. Second, he has a couple of valid points. I tried to talk my wife into getting a GMC or Chevy, but she loves the look of the Fords. I owned a 72 F-100 and 94 F-150; both of which I loved. (The 94 was purchased brand-new btw) I relented, and I am not as impressed with our 05 x-cab. The 5.4 lags, makes noises and gets lousy gas mileage. (14 city...yeah, downhill with a tailwind!) The tranny won't always shift right, and it downshifts worse. The window DOES sit too high. The bedside DOES look like the broadside of a barn(thank God for two-tone). I have 8000 miles on it, and the front tires are already losing their edge on the outside. She agrees that our next truck will be a Chevy.
Now hold on, I have owned a 94 Ram and nuuumerous Chevy's, all older. I'm not downing any manufacturer, just stating facts and opinions from my perspective. I would still own an older Ford if the right deal came along.
In a nutshell. He is talking about his truck, not you. Try to show him the same respect.
Wes
USN - 14 years
Charleston, SC (currently)

 

I have 8000 miles on it, and the front tires are already losing their edge on the outside.

They should be rotated at 6,000 miles on a typical car. This is standard. On truck it might even be before that since there is even more weight, but I wouldn't go past 6,000 miles without rotating them.

What do you mean by the tranny not shifting "right"? I am assuming (and taking that risk) that it is an auto trans? Does it hesitate between shifts? Clunk into gear?

14 MPG with a 5.4L in the city in a fullsized truck is about right. I have a 4.9 in a '93 F-150 with a 5-speed and get about 16 in mixed driving. We never buy our trucks because they are good on gas.

The bedside DOES look like the broadside of a barn

I think so too, but it seems to be a style a lot of people like. I thought I was just behind the times not really caring for it myself.

 

Did he even test drive one?

Well, I can say I run a contracting business in which I send crews all over the US. We run 6 crews and average about 40-60k miles each vehicle per year.

I currently have 2x 2005 F150 super crews, and one 2006 F150 super crew.
I am extremly happy with them. They are built very well, and despite a few anoyances (Which you will have with ANY make vehicle) they are great trucks! Very good price, good comfort, good apearance, and awesome towing ability.

Over the years we have used 4 Dodge trucks, which other than an extremly crappy resale, and a new transmission every 50k miles, they were pretty good for our business, unfortunatly a crew of four missing a $20k install and spending a week in hotel on my dime due to a dodge transmission..... well, after 4 of them and the same results EVERY time, Im done with Dodge. Maybe "neveragain" can walk home when his goes out. My crews cant.

Chevy, We have ran 6 different Chevy vehicles on the road over the years. We had brake problems on all 6 with in 60k miles. A/C went out of 3 of them. Stereo quit working in 4 of them. And 5 of them had trouble with the rubber seals leaking around the windows, and all 6 had power door lock and power window problems.

We have used two Toyotas, they are great, but not much room, and more expensive. More expensive to buy and mroe expensive to service and maintain. Better resale? Not when you take off the additional cost of standard maintance. No complaints other than room. The rest balances.

We have used 5 Ford trucks over the years, not including our recent 3 that are the new style that brings us to 8. After our experiences with the above listed brands and the number of miles we put on our trucks, This guy that wrote this revue is an idiot. He aparently wanted a Dodge and not a Ford to begin with. For some reason some one forced him to buy the Ford, or he thought it was pretty and was a good price and bought it with out driving it.

Sounds more like buyers remorse than a bad truck.
I can agree with a couple of the items he complained about, but that said, you have similar problems with every truck on the road! He forgot to mention the nose of the Dodge where you cant tell how far it extends in the front, my crews wrecked the Dodge trucks more than any other brand due to not being able to see the nose! Ford has a great option that costs about $200 that beeps when you get to close to something when backing up. (He said he got every option available???? all mine had that feature!) AND the extended larger mirrors allow you to see the rear bumper. (Another option....... for Ford AND Dodge!) Maybe his Dodge was so much better because he ordered a few more options he didnt get on the Ford? Same on seats, he is complaining about the comfort of the seats, did he get the cheapest one, the bench? Or did he get the captians seats? I had more back aches from driving the Dodge trucks than you would imagine! (But it was a bench seat!) I am sure the upgraded seat it a lot better, just like Fords!

Anyway, I didnt mean to rant, but It really iritates me when some one posts a rant on the internet on dozens of web sites and obvisouly didnt even drive the truck before he bought it or he would have known the things he was complaining about.

He is obvisouly a Dodge man, he had no business buying a Ford to begin with. Once your mind is made up that a certain truck brand is your favorite, you can pick apart any truck thats not the brand you favor. But I can tell you after owning and MAINTAINING, then selling with high miles, the main major brands, he is picking apart a certain brand while leaving the brand of choice alone. Almost every complaint he had could be applied to his beloved Dodge as well, and a few more things, like a few transmissions

After millions of miles on the road for my company, the Ford had the least accidents by my crews, the least break downs, and the best resale value with high miles on it. (The Toyota had a better resale, but considering the higher price to buy it, and higher maintance cost, they canceled each other out for me)

Im not a brand name person, we buy whats right and at the right price when we need it, but the numbers just add up, the Ford F150 is bar none the best value on the market for any one!

This guy wouldnt have been happy with any truck except a Dodge, he wasnt even willing to give it chance from day one. I think his wife made him trade his Dodge in and wouldnt let him have what he wanted, so he had to be a cry baby and makes posts all over the internet complaining about it.

I have some advice for him.... TEST DRIVE
If you hate the doors? DONT BUY IT
If you hate the seats? Upgrade or DONT BUY IT
If you hate the mirrors because you cant see the bumper? Upgrade, or DONT BUY IT
If you hate the truck bed, DONT BUY IT
If your a big man, and you dont fit well int truck, OMG! DONT BUY IT
If you LOVE your Dodge, then buy another!!!!
If you hate all those things, and buy it anyway, you my friend are an idiot and have no business posting complaints anywhere on the internet.