[TruBlu351]

You can buy the low style hornet scoops for about $100 on the internet if you look around. I bought the version which is about 4cm higher for $145.

If you guys already have a shaker hole in the bonnet, the hornet scoop will just cover it by about 2cm on each side.

 

[pracy]

what kinda spacer size will I need with a redline street torker and a HP DP 650 under a flat hornet like strokexd's?

do you guys lift it up with just a spacer or some other tricks?

 

[TruBlu351]

what kinda spacer size will I need with a redline street torker and a HP DP 650 under a flat hornet like strokexd's?

do you guys lift it up with just a spacer or some other tricks?

Just a 4 hole spacer under the carb works fine. Go plastic as it's a better heat insulator too......keeps carby cooler.

I have a 2" tall spacer under my 750HP and weiand xcelerator with a 3.5" tall filter. With a 10cm high hornet scoop I have about 1" clearance.

You don't have to jack your carby up into the cold air. There will still be a fair down force of fresh air to suck in, compared to just sucking in hot under bonnet air.

 

[northiam]

northiam,
What a shame - you had to get a Funnelweb inlet manifold just to get the shaker up high enough to stick thru the bonnet!!! Darn!

If we tried to run that manifold on an XD/E we would need a Hornet Scoop as high as the roof line as the whole carby would be above the bonnet

Nice setup

No way Fit a shaker with the funnelweb that came after, the funnelweb would be 2 inch to tall! You can run a xcellator manifold I guess. An XA would be as tight as an XD/F I think.

 

[STROKEXD]

what kinda spacer size will I need with a redline street torker and a HP DP 650 under a flat hornet like strokexd's?

do you guys lift it up with just a spacer or some other tricks?

I'm only running a 1 inch spacer but have a fairly tall 3 inch air-cleaner. I use an X-treme lid by K&N so the cold air dump's on top of this with about a 10mm gap.

It might be better again to lift the air-cleaner higher into the Hornet scoop itself, but I can't do this with the 14 inch diameter air-cleaner I'm using. To get it into the scoop you need a smaller oval shaped filter or one of those funny little round ones the size of a can of baked beans like Brenx's runs.. :wnc:

 

[STROKEXD]

Here's a pic...

 

[pracy]

strokexd, would you rather a smaller filter, maybe 9" to fit up through the hole?
or is the way u have it, how its staying?

what is the biggest size filter u could fit up into a hornet scoop?

cheers!

 

[STROKEXD]

Check out the K&N web site they have oval shape filters approx 15 x 8 inch (just guessing but it's about that).

But certainly one of the K&N'oval filters fits perfectly.

I'm happy with my current set-up, I get a nice blast of air onto the lid which is a filter top.

 

[TruBlu351]

strokexd, would you rather a smaller filter, maybe 9" to fit up through the hole?
or is the way u have it, how its staying?

what is the biggest size filter u could fit up into a hornet scoop?

cheers!

A 9 inch round is the biggest diameter, then vertical height is all up to spacer/manifold/carby height etc.

I was quite suprised with my 9x3" choker! It doesn't make much difference on or off. With a bigger HP, higher revving motor there would be.

 

[STROKEXD]

Yeah Tru-Blu I keep hearing stuff like that. But maybe it's athstetics as well, but the part of my brain that is mathematical just can't accept these small air-cleaners.. 750 cfm is 750 cubic feet every minute after all.. That's 13 cu ft per second and that's a shitload of air to move through something so small.

 

[TruBlu351]

Yeah Tru-Blu I keep hearing stuff like that. But maybe it's athstetics as well, but the part of my brain that is mathematical just can't accept these small air-cleaners.. 750 cfm is 750 cubic feet every minute after all.. That's 13 cu ft per second and that's a shitload of air to move through something so small.

Couldn't agree more. But spinning my 351 to 5500 only requires 550cfm of the 750 potential. Still a fair bit, but a 351 only sucks 750cfm when @ 7400rpm. Thats why I personally only saw about 2HP difference on/off. Physics is physics and agree there's no way it could allow full flow to a set of race heads and big cam.

Although not ideal, it currently serves as more of an interim street convenience.

 

[1XYGTHO]

Brand New metal replica shakers can be had for $1000.00. If you know anyone who wants one drop me a PM. These are the closest thing to the real thing that is currently on the market today. They are identical to the PH3 XY shaker.

Regards

Troy

 

[pracy]

way to expensive for a scoop though, large part of an efi setup

 

[1XYGTHO]

Agreed, although there are some people out there who look for perfection in other areas of their car. Like me

Troy

 

[XD408]

Couldn't agree more. But spinning my 351 to 5500 only requires 550cfm of the 750 potential. Still a fair bit, but a 351 only sucks 750cfm when @ 7400rpm. Thats why I personally only saw about 2HP difference on/off. Physics is physics and agree there's no way it could allow full flow to a set of race heads and big cam.

Although not ideal, it currently serves as more of an interim street convenience.

Hey people
I to thought about the shaker when i was building mine im lucky i didnt cause with the taller intake manifolds like TFCs and Funnelwebs in an xd (although im running a windsor bottom end) the top part of the carby sticks thru the bonnet even without the 2" spacer on i had dramas gettin a large enough air cleaner that was going to flow well to fit under my hornet scoop which was basically my only alternative. Id suggest to wait and see when the motors in and check the amount of space ull actually have, i do know that a K&N air filter with extreme top and a hornet scoop does flow better than a shaker so i guess it depends what your going for looks or maximum HorsePower

 

[brenx]

Pracy: Any reason you went for so much dish in the pistons? Just curious. As it's the 1st non-blown/forced induction clevo I'd seen not running flat top pistons.

Brenden

 

[pracy]

well i didn't choose them but thats the dish both my mech and ACL wanted for 2v closed 351 running at about 10:1...
they do looked dished though dont they!! cost me a fair bit more then normal acl kit

 

[xdclevo]

well i didn't choose them but thats the dish both my mech and ACL wanted for 2v closed 351 running at about 10:1...
they do looked dished though dont they!! cost me a fair bit more then normal acl kit

If you havn't shaved the heads of block, i will bet you a carton of p!ss you dont have 10:1 with dished pistons. What cc is listed for the dish. Is sounds again like the old "closed chamber gives 12:1" wives tail that gets around.

 

[brenx]

Sure does. Looks like about a 20cc dish??

 

[pracy]

no my mech was looking at 10.5 to 10.9:1 before the dish, nothing higher.
not specs on the dish here with me and i cant rem what it was though.....

hows this going to effect me if its too large?
I very much doubt it is though, as my mech has been messing with clevo's for ages!!